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From:eqe
Date:September 25th, 2006 06:28 am (UTC)
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I have always found that emulation modes are a net loss; I inevitably want to use the system as it was designed to be used. So though I use vim for everything else, when I'm doing lispish programming I use emacs (or xemacs more likely) in native mode. It really is quite excellent in many ways. And using it has made me significantly better at navigating emacs-mode command line editing.

At my last job there were a bunch of emacs users (mostly on Win32, no less). At least one of them used Viper in that horrible "vi for dummies" way, "ESC ESC xxxxxxxxxifoo ESClllllllllllxxxxxxx". People, if you insist on using a tool, you should learn how to use it right. "c2wfooESC3wdf-", please.
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From:avani
Date:September 25th, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC)
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So though I use vim for everything else, when I'm doing lispish programming I use emacs (or xemacs more likely) in native mode. It really is quite excellent in many ways. And using it has made me significantly better at navigating emacs-mode command line editing.


That's heartening. I've used Emacs for its multi-language support, but I've never really given it a fair shot as an editor (my one experience with Lisp was traumatic enough as is ... highly optimized uncommented implementatation-specific research-level code). Did you use Viper, or did you manage to teach yourself out of the automatic vim keystrokes?

At least one of them used Viper in that horrible "vi for dummies" way, "ESC ESC xxxxxxxxxifoo ESClllllllllllxxxxxxx".

::shudder::

Though.. I kinda want to see "vi for Dummies". I can imagine a book like that being hilarious.
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